On September 21, John Kerry and John Edwards appeared at a packed TD Waterhouse Center in Orlando for a rally and celebration. I was there, and as noted previously here on Blast Off!, it was phenomenal.
Of course, since I guess I’m now known a little in the blogosphere for transcribing audio files, herewith, for those without Windows Media Player (or the patience to wait for download), the transcript of the Edwards interview, conducted by the Phile’s “Moira” (with apologies for audio skips – I filled in where possible, noted by brackets … also, Sen. Edwards’ comments are italicized for easy viewing).
MOIRA, HOST: Joining us on the line is Senator John Edwards, the vice presidential candidate for the Democratic Party, and we welcome him to the Philips Phile. Senator Edwards, thanks for being with us.
JOHN EDWARDS: Thank you. It’s an honor to be with you.
M: After the 2000 presidential election, it has become very clear why Florida – and now those infamous 537 votes – is so important to the presidential campaign. So
important, in fact, that both you and John Kerry are holding this rally in downtown Orlando later tonight. And we’ve been talking about it for the last couple of days.
Can you explain the importance of Florida to the campaign, specifically, the I-4 corridor?
JE: Well, the I-4 corridor is Ground Zero for who the next president of the United States is going to be. It’s just about that simple. We know how critical Florida is
… we all, as you pointed out, we saw what happened in 2000. So many of the issues Floridians face are similar to the issues that people face across America. You know, we have a huge [rise in] Medicare premiums, a huge rise in health care premiums, we’ve got over three million people in Florida who have no health care coverage … I mean, these are some of the things that John Kerry and I will talk about at the rally and the event we have tonight.
But I just – to be honest with you, we’re just excited about being in Orlando. I think it’s going to be a wonderful event tonight. I’m sure that we’ll have a great crowd there … but we want to see and feel the enthusiasm and the energy that we know exist in Orlando and in Florida for this campaign.
M: Well, I’m proud to say that I’m from a long line of Democrats, and I’ve made it very clear on this program that I despise the current administration because of their stand on social issues, economic, environmental issues, their historic budget deficit, their trampling [of] personal freedoms, the Patriot Act – the list could go on and on.
I am troubled, though, Senator, that many voters will choose you because they are anti-Bush, not necessarily pro-Kerry/Edwards. How do you respond to that observation, because we hear it every single day?
JE: Well, it’s logical, though, if you think about it, because the damage that George Bush has done – you just listed a lot of the problems – but, you know the practical problems: five million people losing their health coverage, four million people going into poverty, over one and a half million private sector jobs lost, family incomes going down over the last four years while the cost of virtually everything is going up …
You know, we have extraordinary men and women serving in Iraq and we’re proud of them (and Afghanistan), but Iraq is a mess. It’s a mess because of two men: George Bush and Dick Cheney. Matter of fact, I believe they’re the last two people in America to not see that – they still don’t believe they’ve made any mistakes there.
M: That’s right.
JE: The truth is, the truth is, it’s not unusual for people to focus, particularly when an administration has been as deadly for the country and had as many failures as this administration has had, for people to focus on what they’ve done and failed
to do.
It is important, though, and people will hear this tonight who come to this event … it’s important for people to hear also not just what they’ve done wrong but what we’re going to do better. We have a serious health care plan, which they have not had. We have a serious plan for Iraq, which John laid out yesterday in New York. We have a serious plan to deal with the jobs issue in America and here in Florida.
So, we want people to know what the alternative is, that there is a bright future out there in front of us, but in order for this – to take advantage of this future, we’re going to have to have John Kerry as president.
M: The GOP are masters at dirty politics, whether it was Willie Horton or the Swift Boat campaign or Cheney’s idiotic remarks that whoever’s elected will be dangerous, you know, the country will have another attack or, you know, the Dennis Hastert remark earlier this week or whatever. They are masters at this kind of thing, and they plant the seed and they run back and take cover and see what
sticks and whatever.
But in the last week, I have noticed an almost palpable change in your reaction and in John Kerry’s reaction to some of this negative nonsense. It’s been swift, it’s been firm, it’s been clear – you almost start to dish it out and hand it back a little better, so then maybe we can move on to some issues. I mean, Americans seem to want
that.
How do you respond? You try to rise above it, but can you ever really do that?
JE: No. We have – here’s the truth. When they tell lies about John Kerry, we’re going to call them what they are: lies. When they say things that are designed to scare the American people and deceive the American people, we’re going to say that. When they say things – when they say things about what’s happening in this country that are obviously not true, we’re going to say that.
Now, we’re going to – listen, at the end of the day, this is a fight for the future of America. That’s what’s at stake here. And what they have done over the last four years, we’re going to make sure that voters hold them responsible for. But we’re also going to make sure that people know there are better ideas, a better vision for this country, that we can get there with the right kind of leadership. And we’re going to be tough and we’re going to fight every day between now and the election.
M: Ralph Nader is on the ballot, no, wait, he’s off the ballot, now back on the ballot in Florida, and this seems to me it’s a blatant Republican control issue with, of course, Governor Bush and Secretary of State Glenda Hood, the Florida Supreme Court, they’re all Republicans making this decision. But it still has the potential to have a huge impact on your vote totals. What is the company line on Ralph Nader?
JE: Oh, we’re just reaching out to people who would consider voting for Ralph Nader. You know, the truth is, a lot of the causes that Ralph stands for – you know, fighting against corporate abuses, fighting for the environment – those are the same things that John Kerry and I have fought for our entire lives. And we want people to know where we stand.
You know, it’s why John made such a strong and passionate statement yesterday about what’s happening in Iraq. We want there to be really clear lines, clear choices, and we believe that if people hear that message, if people know what it is we will do for this country, whether it is stopping corporate abuses, whether it is protecting our environment, whether it’s what’s happening in Iraq – whatever the issue is, we believe if we get those messages through, that those voters will come to us.
JACK BRADSHAW, CO-HOST: Senator Edwards, it seems like a lot of the me– there’s never been more media than there has been during this election, and a lot of the focus is on what happened in the early ’70s. How frustrating is it to you, with so many important issues at stake, and how do you change that?
JE: Well, they’ve been telling lies about John, that’s what it is, and the way, the way you change it is you immediately respond, you respond strongly, you tell people the truth, and then you move back to what’s happening in their day-to-day lives. The truth is these guys cannot – they have no chance in this election if people look at what’s happened over the last four years. It’s just about that simple. They cannot be reelected.
Who in their right mind would hire somebody – re-hire somebody – who’s the first president in 75 years not to create jobs? Who [in their right mind would hire] somebody who’s done nothing about the health care crisis in this country, except make it worse? Who in their right mind would hire a president who’s proud of the
mistakes that he’s made in Iraq, and has made [SKIP] if he’s reelected? [SKIP]
this election, so long as we focus on what’s happening in America and where we
need to go.
M: A little pop quiz for you – there’s no right answer, all right? One-word answers are okay. It’s almost like that Bravo show, “Behind The Scenes With The Actors’ Studio,” or whatever it is …
JB: Inside the Actors’ Studio.
M: What’s in your CD player right now, Senator?
JE: Bruce Springsteen.
PHILE CAST: [Laughter.] You da man! You’re my hero now!
M: What’s your favorite sport to watch on TV?
JE: Basketball.
M: College basketball, or …?
JE: College basketball.
M: College basketball. What profession other than your own would you like to try?
JE: Oh, boy, that’s a good … [pause] Mountain climbing.
M: Really? What would you not like to try? What profession other than your own would you not want to do?
JE: I wouldn’t want to be an accountant.
M: All right. And, final question: Beatles, Elvis, or the Rolling Stones?
JE: [pause] The Rolling Stones.
M: Oh, there you go. All right, that is Senator John Edwards. We are happy to
have you here in Orlando. Tonight’s rally, doors open at 6:00, but you will be there with Senator Kerry at about 8:30, you will take the stage.
JE: We’re excited about being there and we want to invite people to come out. We want to see as many people as possible and all of us [SKIP] a terrific night.
M: We are glad to talk to you. Thanks very much.
JE: Great talking to you. Thanks.
Other than possibly losing some accountants’ votes, a fine showing indeed by the next Vice President of the United States. Important point that came out of this interview: people who vote for Bush are not in their right minds. I like it muchly.
Let’s hope Sen. Kerry is equally candid – and impressive – in Thursday night’s “debate.”